University Ranking and Department Ranking

by HSB on September 9, 2007

in College Admission,US Universities

I have Happy Schools for about 45 days days and I’m happy to see the blog grow in popularity from such valuable comments. I had some emails asking me about University Ranking and also department ranking wise ranking list. In one of the previous post U.S. News Ranking. Its a Joke
I had strongly discouraged not to follow its Ranking.My ultimate aim is to convey the message ‘Ranking Doesn’t have any significance’. It’s a mere number to classify the Universities. Having said, that next question you guys will have is how are we supposed to select the Universities from my score when so many Graduate School is offering Masters program in my area. Continue reading, I will explain with examples.

If you look at the Ranking list in general and see what criteria is used for Ranking the University, there is no option given for Aid given to Students, What GRE and TOEFL scores are accepted, how many students get part time jobs.

And we are planning to short list universities, we ask only questions like,

1) For my GRE and TOEFL score which Graduate School will give me admission and we will short list under 3 categories: Ambitious, Normal, Safe.

2) If I don’t get Research or Teaching Assistantship, Students Scholarship, can I find at least part time jobs within college campus. So, I can manage my living expenses and pay the fees using Credit Cards.

Now, let me ask you this. How do you think, a Ranking list that doesn’t include any of the above 2 queries for classifying Universities will help you?

Answer is simple. It doesn’t help you.

Answer is: We are looking for List of Universities and list of College Departments( Computer Science and Engineering , Mechanical Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Industrial Engineering, Environmental Engineering, ..) and that list must include above 2 factors. Something like..

I have GRE of 1200, TOEFL 90, Academics 75% and you need a list arranged based on accepting students for your credentials.

Suppose, if such list exists, how will it be used by students.. I will give example for that too. I will construct an sample list ( dosen’t have any real value)

1) Stanford University ( GRE : 1500 and above)
2) MIT
3) Harvard University
4) ….
5)….
25) Virginia Tech ( GRE : 1250 and Above)
26) Georgia Tech
27)…..
28) …

50) UTA ( GRE : 1100 and Above)
51) UTD
52) KSU
…..

98) TAMK
99) UNTD
100.)…List goes

If you have such a list student with GRE of 1200 will short list like this

Ambitious:

Virgina Tech
Georgia Tech

Normal:

UTA
UTD
UCF

Safe:

FIT
UNCC
NJIT
TAMUK

More to it, we need to have list that includes to have availability of Part Time jobs and Aid. Its a tough ask for someone to create such a list with all combinations. I looked at the list provided by i20fever, but you can use it if you list of all the Universities you need from U.S.. But is that ultimate guide for all your queries, I don’t think so.

<p style=”float:left”><!–adsense#SmallRect–></p>Now,it all boils down to 1 question. How to short list when there are so many Universities. I’ will show how to do it. I’m afraid, it involves some effort, but certainly you will be rewarded. If you guys wonder, how can I write like this. Because I followed the steps I have talked about and going to talk in in next post about short listing your dream 5-8 Universities.

How to search for College and University : Happy Point Method

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1 naveen July 12, 2010 at 12:36 AM

hi..i have a GRE score:1050…and acads 58% cmpleted my b.tech…. branch is electronics and instrumention …. aspiring to go for MS in instrumention field…please let me know the univ which can admit me ….looking upto all scenarios…like scolarships,good univ and TA or part time on campus jobs..
thanks.

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2 Uday June 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM

Hi
I have completed my btech 3rd yr ready to undertake GRE exam in this july my aggregate is 62% in first yr i have a backlog i have cleared it and now in third year i have 2 backlogs of 4th semester result is not yet known . So can you suggest the best colleges for me in the field of computers and what is the required GRE score for those respective colleges , i would like to prefer California . So kindly guide me

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3 sagar June 15, 2010 at 11:39 PM

Hello,
My name is Sagar. I’m planning to take gre exam in the month of sept 2010. Is it advisable to hurry up because i want to join in spring season. Can i know which universities offers MS program foe electronics engineering. I’m planning to do MS in VLSI or Network security or Wirelesss communication. Is it mandatory to take GRE for European universitites.

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4 indra prasad sapkota June 14, 2010 at 11:27 PM

I would like to try for the spring session for phd in physics on2010, I would be grateful if i get the relevent information for that.

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5 indra prasad sapkota June 14, 2010 at 11:25 PM

please let me know the universities for the phd in physics for spring sesson.

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6 Lakshmi May 11, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Hi,
I have got admission in sandiego State university and University of north carolina Charlotte.. Branch: Computer science.. I am confused which one to select.. please guide me regarding the same…

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7 Nitya April 3, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Im doing my B.Tech in Biotechnology. My cgpa is 8 and will hopefully rise in next two semesters. I wanted to know what will be the best universities for me if i want to do ms in fields related to molecular biology?And is presenting papers very necessary for getting good university?Also, i would like to know that how i am i supposed to sum up all the qualities as in the region and the ranking,etc of the universities and pick the best ones.It will be really helpful if u wud suggest on that.

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8 ajay July 31, 2009 at 6:04 AM

Hey i have got a very bad BE(electronics and communication) aggregate of 58% due to my poor health reasons in 2 and 3rd year.I have had backlogs because of this which i have subsequently cleared.No current backlogs.I got selected for internships at honeywell ,Texas instruments,DRDO through their internship tests.I have completed my project at DRDO as well.What is the minimum GRE score i must get to get into universities like univ of texas dallas,arlington;IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY?
PLEASE HELP AND SEND ME UR SUGGESTIONS…………..

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9 Mayur Suryavanshi July 31, 2009 at 1:34 AM

Resp.sir,
presently i am student of BSc Applied biotechnology of fifth semester i want to do MS in biotechnology from USA can i do these course.Please suggest me this course is beneficial to me and which university offer MS in biotechnology or other specialization in these field. IS MS plus MBE OR MBA is best or not.

Thank you,

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10 HSB July 31, 2009 at 7:24 AM

You will need to have completed 16 years of education to apply to US Universities. Since BSc is 3 years course, try to complete one more year. Certification courses for 1 year will also help.

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11 suresh January 24, 2009 at 12:44 AM

really nice help…………..keep it goin……..will tell about the blog to my frens…..

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12 praphulla January 12, 2009 at 8:40 PM

these are the universities suggested to my profile by my consultant…… so pl tell me the BEST SIX PICK from the list below

1.University of Texas San Antonio , Texas
- http://www.utsa.edu/gcat/chapter7/coe/electricaldept.cfm – MS EE program information (80, online)
Annual tuition and fees: $ 14,816 for two semesters

2.Lamar University, Beaumont, TX – http://www.ee.lamar.edu/Graduate%20Program/LUEEMasterofEngineeringnon-thesis.html – MS in EE program information (75)
Annual tuition and fees: $ 9,071 approx.
ETS codes for score reporting: 6360, R6360

3.Wilkes University , PA
http://www.wilkes.edu/pages/1572.asp
MS EE Program
Annual Tution Fees: $13,220 approx

4.St Mary’s University at San Antonio,Texas
http://www.stmarytx.edu/grad/electrical_engineering/
Annual Tution Fees: $ 12,100 approx

5.Univs of Colorado at Denver
MS EE Program
http://thunder1.cudenver.edu/InternationalAdmissions/Application%20Forms/Grad%20How%20to%20apply%20and%20areas%20of%20study%202007.pdf
Annual Tutione Fees: $13,130approx

6.Pittsburg State Univs,Kansas(60)
http://www.pittstate.edu/etech/elect/index.html
MS EET Program
Annual Tution Fees; $ 11,310 approx

7.New Mexico State univs,NM
MS EE Engg
http://www.ece.nmsu.edu/
Annual Tution Fees: $10190 approx

8.Wright State Univs,Ohio
http://www.wright.edu/cgibin/catalog/grad2007.cgi?id=20
Appl Fee: $25 DD
MS EE Program Information
Annual Tution Fees: $ 11,150 approx

9.Western Michigian University ,MI
http://www.wmich.edu/ece/docs/degrees/msee.pdf
Annual Tution Fees: $11,110 approx

10.California State Univs ,Los Angeles
http://www.calstatela.edu/academic/aa/dcc/indexgrad.htm
AnnualTution Fees: $ 10,900 approx

11.SUNY, New Paltz, NY – http://www.engr.newpaltz.edu/grad_ee.html – MS EE program information (50)online
Annual tuition and fees: $ 11,800 approx.
ETS codes for score reporting: 2541, R2541

12.Gannon University, Erie, PA -
http://www.gannon.edu/PROGRAMS/grad/eleccomp.asp – MS EE program information (25) DD
Annual tuition and fees: $ 10,900 approx.
ETS codes for scores reporting: 2270, R2270

13.Fairfield University,Connecticut
http://www.fairfield.edu/x4952.html
MS EE Program
Annual Tution Fees: $12900 approx

14. Cleveland State Univs,Ohio
http://graduatestudies.csuohio.edu/kb/?View=entry&EntryID=67
Annual Fees: $11,900 approx

15.Univs of Texas Pan American ,Tx
http://ece.utpa.edu/mse-program
MS EE Program
Annual Tution Fees : $10,140 approx
Needs Credential Evaluation

16.California State Univs,Northridge,CA
http://www.csun.edu/ece/
Annual Tution Fees: $10950

Electrical Engg. Department code for – TOEFL: 66
Electrical Engg. Department code for – GRE: 1203

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13 arthi December 31, 2008 at 2:01 PM

hi..
am doin my fianl year engg in ece
my gre score first attempt 950 ( q-670,v-280)
second attempt 930 (q-640,v-290)
toefl-82
acad -74.4%(till 6th sem)
i wanns do masters in EE in usa..
so now am much worrried .. could u please say me whether i could get admit in univ .. and if i get admit will it be worthy to learn in an avg univ as i ll get only very average univs.. please giude me.. i lost hope and with this score can we get funding and other aid as well as GA?? and does my low score in 2nd attempt compared to my 1st attempt will affect during visa time??am hopeless.. plz do suggest me :(

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14 teja December 3, 2008 at 6:17 AM

hi, dude
really valuable information. eagerly waiting for your next article

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15 Shinjita Ghatak November 20, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Hi,my gre score is 1223(v-540,q-680,A-3.0) Toefl-ibt -104 ,my C.G.P.A-8.34(till 4th sem hve got official marksheet,7.6 till 6th sem but not got the marksheet) ,no backlogs my engineering branch is electronics and telecommunication and have also completed a project on phone recorder of it., i want to apply for masters in biomedical engineering,have thought of applying in Drexel,which r the other collgs which can be applied seeing all the possibilities of aid,fee waiver and obviously good univ teaching and good atmosphere.

Iam really confused please help ,with my current B.tech studies and all going mad with tension.

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16 saikishore November 19, 2008 at 8:31 PM

hello sir,,
my profile:
GRE :1240[Q680,V-560]
toefl:97
btech:65
i have 2 projects and 4 papers…
can u plz suggest me some univs based on my profile

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17 DEEP November 10, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Dear Raghu…

Great work….god bless you !!!!

I am a final year computer Science ( B.E.) student….
My current Profile is

GRE
verbal -470
Quanta-740
AWA – 3.0

TOEFL ibt
110

ACAD
62% { till 6th sem…by the end of the degree it may hopefully rise up to 70%}
no backlog at all…

My counselor suggested me the following Univeristies….

1-Utah state University
2-Texas Tech University
3-Bowling Green State University
4-Georgia state University
5-Illinois State University
6-San Diego State University
7-University of North Texas
8-George Mason University
9-Florida state University
10-University of Missouri at Kansas city

Now to be frank…..I really feel as if, in half of these university I don’t stand a chance. And for another half I guess I deserve something much batter……

Do you think that my ACADs and GRE scores are compatible…..or what I am trying to ask is that….if I take GRE once again and score something like 1400+…will my low ACAD runi the effect of even a high GRE score ?

I am planning for Fall 2009…

Yours Thankful
Really Confused

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18 HSB November 1, 2008 at 7:12 PM

@Daniel: Are you sure U.S. schools have programs named avionics? I searched, but couldnt find any results. Some masters degree offered here are

Master of Aeronautical Science
Master of Science in Aeronautics
Aerospace Engineering (MAE and MSAE)

so, checkout what you want to study and then search for universities.

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19 Daniel November 1, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Hi dude..Read your blog.Really encouraging Thanks a lot for the details.I am worried about my chances of getting admit in Us university..I ve got a score of 910( verbal-300, Quants- 610)..im in final year Btech in ECE
B.E – 60% with 10 backlogs
12th -80%
SSC – 80% nd
i have one national level selected presentation certified by IEEE nd couple of projects wid out my main project.
one workshop certificate at IITM
nd i have 4 recommendations of prof. of my department
i want know which univ. i can get into for avionics nd electronics

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20 Sonika Anand October 16, 2008 at 10:44 AM

Hey,i have a GRE score:1250… and acads 73% upto VI sem. n aspiring to go for MS in EE…please let me know the univ which can admit me ….looking upto all scenarios…like scolarships,good univ and TA or part time on campus jobs..
thanks.

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21 HSB October 12, 2008 at 8:17 PM

@Roberta Perez: Applying for MBA is different from applying for Masters degree in engineering. You have to find the schools that match your profile. Schools are not ranked based on GMAT or GRE scores.

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22 Roberta Perez October 12, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Ok! I always read that we should not look to those rankings to decide which university to apply.
However… i wanna apply for an MBA in the USA, but i have NO IDEA for which university to apply, so i began looking into those rankings to start my resarch… Am i wrong?

Thank’
Roberta

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23 sumalya April 29, 2008 at 3:05 AM

now i am getting more & more addicted to ur blogs… :D

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24 vijay March 27, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Hi my name is vijay.
I have got admits in to Texas Tech univ and Kansas State univ for MS Civil Engg for fall 2008.
Which is better to go considering all aspects like Funding senerio of dept,Visa success rate,Part time jobs etc.
Please give me ur suggestion.
I am waiting for ur kind reply.

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25 vijay October 25, 2007 at 5:09 AM

hai,
i got i20 from npu(north westren polytechnic university)and iam waiting for acceptence from udm(university of detroit mercy).what i have to do now?is the npu is best for msee?plz reply me to my mail or at this point.

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26 bala May 23, 2010 at 10:54 PM

hi dude me too trying for npu in california.MS CSE.. i need assistance from u ..if u get any info abt that univ pls inform me .i got gre 980 BE 62 12th 88 .. wrote toefl waiting for result .will i get admission ..for getting i20 wat should i do …is the university is worth enough. planning to go in sept 2010.pls do reply me friend…

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27 kiran June 29, 2010 at 1:35 AM

hi guys,

i have also got i20 from NPU.please contact me @ kkiran.thapa@gmail.com
we can discuss more

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28 Happy Schools October 22, 2007 at 5:50 AM

Thanks Priya. I’m doing my best.

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29 priya October 22, 2007 at 5:48 AM

hi ,
your articles r fabulous. it threw light on some aspects unknown to others.
keep on writing buddy

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30 Happy Schools October 5, 2007 at 6:49 PM

Thanks everyone for your encouraging comments. I still haven’t answered all possible questions students will have in mind. I’m doing my best. Let your friends know about this blog.

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31 Tejaswi October 5, 2007 at 6:43 PM

This work of yours is really a boon to many of us aspiring to pursue MS.Your articles have a pragmatic approach rather than a general one.Keep writing them and we are always Thankful to you for rendering this great help!

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32 Vaishnavi October 4, 2007 at 3:20 AM

amazing work! keep it up! waiting for more….

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33 ruchi September 22, 2007 at 4:58 PM

man i got 1310 score in gre….someway help me to figure out something gud

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34 Life Strikes September 19, 2007 at 5:50 PM

Vinay and Sri, thanks for your comments. Keep visiting the blog for more updates.

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35 Vinay September 16, 2007 at 11:53 PM

Hi dude..Read your blog.Really encouraging Thanks a lot for the details.I am worried about my chances of getting admit in Us university..I ve got a score of 1040( verbal-300, Quants- 740).2nd attempt.
B.E – 63% with 3 backlogs and cleared it in the next immediate attempt
PUC(12th) -76%
SSLC – 82%

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36 Anonymous September 15, 2007 at 8:31 PM

Great work!!! Keep it up!

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37 sri September 12, 2007 at 7:24 AM

first of all i was amazed to see dis blog bcuz i had less hope of gettin into univ whn m gre score is jst 30 odd away frm 1000 n my acads r also on a verge of 1st class . i hav read dese posts i got the confidence now to apply for da univ this blog has helped me a lot

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38 H.Thirukkumaran September 10, 2007 at 8:02 AM

After reading your blog. I am tempted to go to university after having 5 years of work experience. I think this time when I go, I will be having an end to end idea about the education program.

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39 Hari September 10, 2007 at 7:28 AM

Thanx a lot for ur quick response…ur posts r quite practical…good work…lookin forward for ur next post…

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40 Shriek September 9, 2007 at 9:14 PM

gr8 work dude….i can n i think everyone can relate exactly to wat u talk…simply fabulous…..never seen such precise advice…..
i m jus curious how hv u put together such a detailed blog wrt to presentation,style,formattin…after my univs selection n admit i wud like to learn a lot frm u…u r my mentor.

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