Following article comparing lifestyle in India and USA, cost of living, and day-to-day things is written by Rashmi – Posted a comment to Real Reason I’m Going to USA : To Be Treated Like a Human Being.
I have to thank HSB for starting this thread. One thing is for sure is that this discussion brings out the varied mindset of Indian youth. There is evidence of strong love for India as well as strong hatred. I hope there will be changes in attitude/thought of some people participating in the discussion here and it gives me strong motivation to thank HSB and spend time here.
I will bring in some real life incidents to ponder over. All of the following examples are about friends/acquaintances/relatives and I will take care to keep the description anonymous.
Case-1: Purchasing Flat in India
When I bought a flat in Gurgaon in 2005 (of course on loan with some dollar savings as down payment), it was kind of group deal to get a better bargain from the builder and several of my team mates booked flats on the same apartment.
One of my close teammates refrained from booking, I tried to persuade him, saying that this is s good investment, property prices are going up, you will have tax benefits, go for it. He said, no I will have another 2yr trip and then have enough savings to buy on cash, no loans.
He stayed back in US with H1 and got married, had kids. After 6yrs, in 2011 when we talked, I asked did you buy a flat in Gurgaon, he said no, the 3BHK flats at the same place are now INR 1.5crores and I only have 50L of savings (dollar money).
Instead of thinking of saving in dollars, you should think “smart” investment and ROI. Staying in US with family (if spouse is not working) may not save you enough money as you have to travel to India every year, pay car loans, rents etc. If spouse is working you earn enough in India as well.
Case-2: Education
There are numerous instances of people deciding to come back for child education purposes.
Higher education like MS/PhD are very good in US but not primary education. Also the education is pretty costly to manage.
Case-3: Nanny for Childcare
I know a guy who was very excited about US and its lifestyle. After marriage, when the couple were expecting their baby, they wanted someone from their family in India to travel and take care of the lady during pregnancy and after child birth.
Unfortunately, no one could travel as everyone had other family obligations. They offered to help only if the lady comes to stay with their family in India. They had to do that, because affording a nanny/bay sitter in US is damn expensive.
Case-4: Outsourcing and Racism
This guy lost his job just after marriage in US. Unfortunately he had a long stretch of wait before he landed on another job(almost a year), I helped him financially through that lean period. This was during 2009.
There are other examples of things going wrong in US. Like attacks by negros/blacks in downtown area, racism at work place, deep under current of hatred for Indians because of fear of outsourcing. So, its not all rosy in US. Everything in life comes as package, there will be positives and negatives. It is important to understand what one wants and one has to be responsible about decisions.
Life in Equally Good in India
I think life is equally good in India these days. Let me give examples,
- In 2004, I could book flight/train tickets on internet in US. I used to think US is better since I can’t do this in India. Now we can do so in India.
- In 2004 I could pay my bills on internet in US, buy stuff from dealstobuy etc. Now we can do the same in India. These days I buy books from Amazon/Junglee, buy merchandise, discounts in restaurants etc from snapdeal.
- In 2004 I could pay by credit cards every where in US. Now I can do the same in India.
- In 2004, multiplexes were there in India, but not big malls. These days they are everywhere.
McDonald, Domino etc. - I pay phone bills, internet bills, taxes, electricity bills, bank transactions, everything on internet, I do not see a difference between US and India.
Now lets talk about some of the things from cost and affordability perspective.
- Cars are cheaper in US. Refurbished cars are in good condition in US.
- Laptop/LED/LCD etc electronics are cheaper and latest in US. But these days I find accessories like USB drive, HDD and cameras cheap in India than US. Samsung Galaxy S-II got launched in Asia first and 2months later in US. iPhone 4S is launched everywhere at same time. Some technologies are used in US first, but that gap has rapidly come down due to communication revolution.
- Eating out is hygienic, you do not fall sick. I see improvement in India but no where close to US still.
- Human labour is damn expensive in US, you can’t afford a driver/maid etc. I have 2 maids, I do not do household work, I think time is better spent in acquiring knowledge, in gym and with family than sweating out doing vacuum, mopping and cooking. People may say its not much work in US, but it gets increasingly difficult once you have kids.
- Education is very expensive in US. In India if you are good enough to crack an entrance and get into a govt engg college, you pay less than 5 times than in US.
- High taxes (40%) in US. In India you have a lot of investment options to save tax. In India it is below 25%.
- Mobile tariff is expensive in US. In India I use postpaid mobile, STD in 50paisa all over India, ISD is Rs 1.5 for North America, and local calls 30paisa, 3G internet Rs 100 a month. No US tariff can beat that.
- Utilities – Monthly charges for netflix/cable/satellite tv etc are expensive in US. In India, INR 300 a month , all channels
- Broadband tariff is cheaper in India. I pay Rs 800 for unlimited 2mbps. If you take a 3G dongle, you pay Rs 750 for 2mbps and you can use that almost everywhere. In US, 3G/4G dongles are very expensive.
- Public transport. Very little in US. You gotta have your own car. Delhi metro is very advanced, though crowded. But same is true in Toronto, Japan and New York.
- Public Infrastructure. US wins hands down. No argument here.
- Govt/Public processes/system like acquiring passports, driving licenses etc. I got my driving license (electronic one) in 2weeks with Rs 275 in 2006. I had to go to the RTO office 4 times, first time to get the forms and learn the process, second time to deposit them with supporting documents, third time for driving test and fourth time for getting the DL. My experience was this, I faced harassment of demand of bribe, standing in the row was painful because there was no shade beyond a point. I worked around the hurdles by remaining adamant on the process and not paying bribe, complained to a higher RTO officer, refusing to accept the offer from the brokers.
- Things are in transition, you gotta have some patience. I have an observation to make here. Indians are ok to stand in long queues in US, but they are not ready to stand in queues in India, I do not know why so impatient in India. I had better experience while obtaining birth certificate for my daughter. Filled the form on internet and just collected the certificate at the counter by paying cash.
- Crowd: I agree the crowd in India is not that civilized. Civilized means allowing elders, ladies, handicapped people to go ahead of you in queues or vacating a seat for them, being sensitive to other people in society, treating them courteously etc. In US, crowd is much better (expected since more educated people are there), but I have seen them laugh/get irritated when Asian people behave badly in queues etc. My point is if you allow an Indian ahead of you in a queue, do so with full respect, not with a sarcastic smile. In India, the bad behavior people face in hospitals, govt offices etc are because of this crowd behavior.
- Medical facilities are better, but very expensive. Medical insurance is expensive. High end surgeries and treatment are cheap in India.
- Indian family culture and value system – India wins this one hands down. In US, society is very formal. You may say Hi to a guy on elevator for 10yrs and still know nothing about him.
- In India the support system is very strong. Your kid is taken care of even if both you and your spouse work. After you get old, whatever money you may have, but you can not buy the affection and care of your blood relations. You can only get that by relationship building. Make that investment when you are young. You WILL need help to even do small household chores when you are old. We help our parents/grand parents/elder relatives here in India, our kids watch and learn this culture. If your kids grow up in US, they will adopt US culture. As Prasad said, you will be lonely when you get old.
- US is not growing. I do not see a difference in a New York 5yrs back and now. But you see big difference in Gurgaon. The salaries have not increased in US in last 10yrs. In India it has gone up significantly. There are always jobs in India, in US it is not so.
- Higher education: It is better in US. Thats why we are here is not it ? But this is changing slowly. Universities in India have started investing more in research and eminent profs are coming back. Though the number is still very low. I have a point of view here. Things have changed in last few years. You do not need a Dronacharya to become an Arjuna these days. If you know how to use google and internet, its all you need for knowledge.
- The reason why I am on this blog is the perception. In India, if you are foreign educated (be it from some Tom/Dick/Harry college), people give you respect. Thats the slave attitude the british have left us with. That is the reason probably, why people become so obsessed with US lifestyle. The white skin effect. So it is strategic to have a US education if possible.
What About Money
Now lets talk money.
Be it US, India or anywhere in this world.
A “job” mentality can not make you break the financial barrier.
Being “financially stable” and “financially independent” are 2 different things.
- Financially stable means you have comfortable life but you have to work for that everyday.
- Financially independent means you still live a comfortable lifestyle even if you do not work i.e by having self-generating assets.
With a job, the maximum you will have in life is 2-3 houses, cars, LED TV etc.
To really make a difference and break the barrier (becoming financially independent), you gotta think business. Otherwise, it hardly matters whether you are in US, China, Japan or India.
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Very good insights about lifestyle in India and USA. There are few things I disagree and lot of things to which I agree.
Medical Expenses
Medical facilities are better, but very expensive. Medical insurance is expensive. High end surgeries and treatment are cheap in India.
Agree – Health Care in Expensive and Insurance in Expensive. Indian its cheap.
Here is my view. To get quality care in India, you need to pay. Poor people can’t afford to go to Top Hospitals in India. But in USA, even you don’t have an insurance, in case of emergency, you get the same quality and care as anyone else.
Child Care and Nanny
Child Care in Expensive. If both parents are working, then they have to let the new-born in day care when mom starts working.
Its Indian Culture or Tradition to have their parents come to help when new baby is born.
We had our son and our parents came here to help.
Our American Neighbor had baby around the same time, their parents came couple of day after baby was born, they were here only for couple of days. then its was mom, dad and new born.
Pretty much that’s what happens with new parents in USA. They don’t have parents staying with them for 3 to 6 months.
Taxes
You have same investment options in USA to get Tax Breaks. You can max out your 401(k) and IRA. In addition, if you are a home owner, you get Mortgage Interest payments as tax deductions. If Both parents are working, then chile care expenses are deductible.
I don’t know what tax dedication are available in India, but there are options to lower your income tax in USA.
Money and Income
Being “financially stable” and “financially independent” are 2 different things.
Now very many people understand the difference. Unfortunately in India, parents want their kids to go to Medical School or Engineering.
You don’t see them encourage kids to think in terms of an Entrepreneur.
For anyone who wants to be Financially Independent, even in USA, working for an employer is not going to get you there, unless you are in Top Management position with Millions in Bonus.
If both husband and wife works high paying jobs 100,000 to 150,000 then you can expect to save 1 Million Dollars when you retire.
With Single Income, say $100,00 to $150,000 you will still have better savings, but you have to live pay check to pay check. It takes long time to save money, paydonw your home loan and thinks several times before buying any product.
Financially Independent
It’s easy to say, you have to start a business, but its hard work. If you are really serious about being financially Independent, you need to change your mindset first.
You are trained all your life to get a job and lead a safe life. Risk takings is not part of course work. Even i you have a simple idea, it could change the world.
Facebook Paid $1 Billion for Instagram. It was simple idea, but the founder made $400 million just for having an idea and developing an product.
If you want to know what it would be like to lead a financially independent lifestyle, start by reading this book
- The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich. (Amazon)
- The 4-Hour Work Week : Escape the 9-5, Live Anywhere and Join the New Rich (Flipkart – India)
Trust me, it will change your thinking.
I can bet right now, folks working in IT will start reading the book. By end of 2 chapters, you will say its impossible to do what’s in the book or you will be like, I work for an employer, I get orders from a manager. How am I supposed to implement this life style design?
Well, if you manage to get complete the entire book, you will get different perspective towards life.
If you don’t have any idea on how to start a business, here is an awesome idea for you – Start Blogging.
Finally, I have to highlight this comment from Real Reason I’m Going to USA : To Be Treated Like a Human Being
When you have people like Ramkumar who writes
THe whole issue pisses me off!! You do not have the right to comment on what India is or would be until and unless you have not made any contribution to its betterment. You buggers are a parasite…you have imbibed all ther essential education, right from nursery to engineering, in this mother country and then you fart on her face by pursuing your higher education abroad and settle out there. If YOU buggers are really concerned, why don’t you do your bit and try something which could alleviate the sufferings of all? Doing a part time job while studying here is considered a sin and of low esteem, but you buggers readily lick the asses of americans there by doing all odd jobs for some bucks more!! Even I’m an Engineer, infact a topper from a very reputed college in India and I’m settled in India without any hitch or itch. It is because of you buggers is that this country is still poor!!!!!
Certainly such attitude and exposure shows they are happy to be “financially stable”.
What I still don’t understand is the same person is working (mostly in IT Services firm) and have been to USA (mostly to client site).
So, it’s not ok for some one to come to USA for higher education and work part-time, while same person can work for American Client and feed his family and earn money, travel to USA for job. If he’s thinks folks like us are parasites, I’m not sure what should we call him?
Ultimate Goal of these 3 blog posts is to create awareness of things that happen in USA and India. If someone is not matured enough to understand and learn how world is different place, there is nothing I can do about that. Even if you don’t agree to others views, take this one single message – World is a Different place, things don’t happen the way you like.
- I’m Fascinated About Living in USA, but What About My Parents?
- Real Reason I’m Going to USA : To Be Treated Like a Human Being
As Arun Says
All the 120+ comments posted here are by those who want to go to US or want to settle there. What bloody work you had to come to this blog. Why the heck have you suscribed to HSB if you love india so much, and you are being so over-patriotic??? All the guys who posted negative comments or anti-HSB comments are dreaming of US (either work or study or work for some time and return). They dont want to accept ground reality.
Guys, grow up. Be sensible. There is nothing wrong to learn from other country. Be it USA or France or whatever. There is no shame in admitting that India is a developing country. Lets experience other country’s culture and system and learn from it. All those guys who posted negative comments have serious EGO problem. They refuse to accept ground realities.
Moreover, its not a debate about about which country is greater. Its about experiencing cultures. Its about experiencing the difference. The world is a global playground. Our designs are done in India, validated in US, manufactured in China, delivered in Brazil and serviced in Czech republic.
All the anti HSB fans, stop following this blog and go do your patriotism stuff.
Rest of us would give a + 1 to this post and show the middle finger to all those who don’t agree and carry on.
HSB,
I thought this post would inspire a lot of people and give them a new dimension in their thinking. You simply carry on with your good work and dont bother about these idiots. They are not eligible to experience this great country.
I’m not going to stop posting articles like this just because you don’t agree to my views or others views about India.
People are unique and I would have had same reaction if I was in College and never came to USA. But, life experience and exposure to new culture bring out different perspective in life.
Your Thoughts?
Hopefully we will have more civilized discussion this time around.
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I have been in the same position as everyone and things have really been running in my head so i came to this platform. Here is my analysis based on my situation – H1b, wife not working, kids young, parents healthy but getting older.
My priority US India
High Kids health High Low
High Kids Schooling Medium High
High Kids Friends/Family Low High
High Kids Extra curricular High Medium
Low Kids Culture (Both are good) Medium Medium
High Wife Peace of mind(Joint Family etc) High Low
Low Wife Career Low Medium
High Health High Low
high Peaceful Job/certainty/green card wait Low High
High Growth prospects Low High
Medium Finances(60% in India vs US High Medium
Medium Parents Low Medium
Medium Time with family High Low
Medium Travel (Less in India, kids get sick) High Low
Thanks for highlighting the key differences between the lifestyles of Indian and American people. With more and more people traveling to India from the USA, the information will make it easier for the tourists to make the right holiday plan and schedule.
First of all this is a great blog to know what it is. We have to respect and accept the truths and ofcourse TRUTH is always bitter!!!.
Let’s not get in deep touch with our heart of being patriotic.
I studied my school in Mysore (Karnataka). When I was in school – I always wanted to score 1 marks more than what my friend used to get. Because my friend always used to score 1st rank in my school. So, obiviously I thought If I would get 1+ then I would be at the TOP.
But, Latter when I moved to Bangalore for my high school, I thought there are many new friends who could beat my old school mate with many margin. Then I thought I have to get 1+ marks to beat these new classmates so that I could be at the TOP.
But I never was at the top… Not in my school, not in my college, not in my degree and not even in my Master’s.
Reason I found myself for not being TOP is because:
- I NEVER had a VISION of being TOP.
- I always used to get 1+ more than the one who is at the TOP.
- I NEVER realized that the one whom I thought was at the TOP was not really at the top…!!!
According to me:
We (Indians) need not have to be at the TOP by scoring 1+ then what USA scores.
Let’s understand the limit. Let’s understand the necessicty. Let’s understand what we really need.
We have to achive what HUMANITY needs rather than just comparing what we have in two different places.
I am not waving WHITE FLAG between INDIAN vs USA but just telling how our lifes could be better by making it as much as better as we could make it….
Does it really matters if its USA/INDIA…?
After all we have one LIFE!!!
100% wrong comment. u r still a child. grow up. India is a developing country and it should be taken care by us. The kind of silly negligence leads it to be still as it is.
If we try we can do it
Happiness is enjoyed when shared with others. There is nothing wrong in staying in US if you can enjoy your life with company of friends and share your happiness. Same thing applies, when you go back to India or never come to US and enjoy life in India with Family. It’s all about what you want from your life. It’s not about your personal life, but if you can change life of others and make them happy that will be counted when you reach to end of your life.
Good thoughts.
Good one.
I can’t help thanking you for this in-depth discussion on differences between life in US and life in India. Hope, this study has proven to be a true guide for many….
every one loves to lead a dignified life. self respect is the key to an individual to choose the way of life. none will render services under corrupt mind. serving Nation is a noble task, but not under corrupt minds. if the working environments are congenial, none will preffer to fly to other places.
Dear Rashmi
It appears to me that you have returned to India from US after working and building your professional life.
Well I think that you are not aware of the ground reality. As we have read on HSB it is said to US aspirants that grass is not greener on the otherside. Same is the case here in India.
I have roots from villages in Delhi and Haryana and lived and got education in cities and believe me situation in cities is much more good than compared to villages now.
In words of My cousin Grandfather ” Gone are the days of brotherhood and cooperation in villages. People here are now more interested in other affairs and jealous with eachother.”
My maternal grandmother applauds life of cities as they mind their business and close friends are happy to help.
Education :- Ask any IIT/ NItians everybody will say they are virtually at the same level when they entered here. Btech from US is more then self sufficient and worth investment.
Legal system
IF anyhow u got into any kind of disputes and enter into legal system your life will become hell.
legal system is rotten here.
Eduction system
To get admitted to your kid in private school in Delhi u have to shell out loads in the name of donations.
The last comment made Arun is a point to think for all the people visiting this blog..
Hi, My family member are green card holder & staying in US. I also want to go there at the earliest as m very alone & my parents are old but my CSPA is ruled out, I cant choose to go for education as m not in favor to do studies now.
My fiancee is also in India with me, we are planning to get married but i cant marry as my family members wants me to come in US (applying Visa for unmarried son) age (31) is running out very fast what to do?? Please suggest if you have any thoughts in your mind…Eagerly Waiting for your replies guys……:(
For those who really wants to understand the current health system in India , please go through this link. and read the article… http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3312047.ece
For those who really wants to understand the current health system in India , please go through this link. and read the article.
theres one flaw in the above article by the author- about salaries have not changed in new york but in gurgaon it has increased—–
The point i want to convey that the increase in salaries in gurgaon is due to inflation, with increasing salaries , the prices of commodities have also risen , so it makes no sense saying about increase in salary-
Dear Sir,
This is totally biased report for USA and de-motivating for potential students or people who want to live good life.
Give me one simple answer, why so many people go on study visa and most of them never come back ? / Why nobody say I do not want to apply for Green card if he/she has a chance ? / Why still people from my state (Gujarat) go as illegal person and send lacs of money at home within 1 year (you can find so many houses in Gujarat as proof) / Why Indian people pay taxes but never get anything from govt after 60 yrs of work ? Why our tax money goes to beggars & industrialist only and not to any programs for middle-income class ?
I request you not to publish such hopeless and useless articles; else you will lost your clients who are loyal to your site for AUTHENTIC &TRUSTED details.
This person might be useless for USA & even for India. Ask this person above questions for genuine reply.
Warm regards,
Rajesh Patel
Ahmedabad
Hi Rajesh
I am really glad to read your reply which is so very true about USA. The last point highlighted by you about the tax is very true. In India there is nothing that the middle class gets even after paying high taxes as compared to the Rich ones. But in USA if we pay taxes then we really have a very good public infrastructure. I have been in USA for over a year now and I can say that humans are treated as humans here unlike in India. There are some very good things about India too but then its upto an individual to decide what needs to prioritized
I agree Ramkumar..!!!
Sincere suggestion to HSB,
Firstly dont allow the anonymous posts on your page & why the HELL you guys care about the ppl who carry the -ve attitude vd them? Every post of your’s make a sense.So, Just keep on posting and forget about the -ve asses.
Someone said “Lack of money” = TOOTHACHE —> +1
Hi Rashmi ..
Very good post ,,, thanks HSB …..
I have some questions for you (Rashmi ) ..
I am staying in US from last year … I dont want to stay here for rest of my life .. I am also thinking that collect some money and come back to India .. But when every time I think about come back I got one question in my mind everybodu coming to US wants to settle down here why I am not feeling the same …
Is that I am having wronge impression about US dont know …. please reply …
My priority id to live my life fullest (no matter in India or US)
-Priya
It depends on person to person. Also, folks who don’t have good are not settled will usually that this feeling. For instance those who come onsite, will find it tough.
Read this – http://www.happyschoolsblog.com/about-complex-life-in-usa/
Hi Priya,
, so I will not generalize. I wanted to come back because I never had the intention of settling down there. I did not opt for a GC application. When someone fell sick/hospitalized in my family I used to be very disturbed in US, but could not do anything. I wanted to be by their side(They are always by my side when I used to be sick 
). I missed marriages, functions and festivals as well. I earned money but could not share the happiness. I feels great when the kids (from family and neighbors) demand small things like ice-cream, burger and I take them out. I came back because I have a lot of work to do in India. I started a company in partnership here and that got acquired by a US company which did not have an India presence. I teach in local engg colleges to bridge the industry – academics gap. I work with local Govt to review some of the IT/ITES policies, volunteer for TiE etc. I enjoy working here because it gives more meaning to my contributions. Just having a pleasant life seemed a very “limited ambition” in life. I have strong social circle in US also, I can not say life was not fun in US as well. I had a blast during my tenure there. But the effect started to wane on me as I grew in maturity. I travel frequently to US even now and see them there. It feels great. In my company, engineers from our US/Taiwan/Japan divisions fly down here and work with us. The decisions are taken on cost and product requirement basis. It is international culture anyway. As long as work is good, technical growth is good, you have family by your side, life is good. That is why I am saying, do not think about settling down in US. Have the exposure and then ask yourself what you want to do in your life. Decide accordingly.
It depends from person to person. It depends on your interpretation of “living life to the fullest”. Many of my friends, cousins chose to come back, including me. I have also seen a lot of people choosing to settle down. I do not have a reliable source of statistics here, like how many of them settle down, how many of them come back and how many of them wanted to settle down but US did not allow them to
Rashmi, I admire your outlook towards life..You and I share the same attitude..much respect
hmm..
here/there, important issue is…what do one need for the rest of their life…..
I(from india) like to make mad contributions in science..i am an 77% student.. MIT/others is out of my range..and i am 23, what sense do that make to run for mad science for the next 3/4 yrs for PG/Ph.D for US..and even after that, Can i make the contribution that i am interested in?? the one that i feel???
the second option, get a govt job, allot a lot of free time, setting independent business/industry(part time an d making it full time..) (as i can’t get the burden with govt job)…earn money…& “”DOING MAD RESEARCH” that i was interested in..(no one can object me then)..
& cherishing the life…i find Option 2, sounds more easier to me…
what do u people say???
I have posted this comment on the previous post (Human being……) too. I would like to share it on this awesome post too…..
THINK ON THIS QUOTE
“Patriotism is a superstition artificially created and maintained through a web of lies and falsehoods, robbing us of our dignity and increasing our arrogance and conceit.”
-Emma Goldman
I started following HSB in order to get acquainted with GRE and it has helped me a lot. It is authored probably by some Indian guy living in the US. See, that’s the kind of contribution we all need from the people who are going abroad. Mr.HSB is helping so many people (that too free) for everything related to GRE/TOEFL and making decisions worth crores of INR. He isnt just helping the society but also people from all nations who are free to join here. Thats what we can call as a contribution to the society and to the nation. It doesn’t matter what country we are living, the thing that matters is that if one hasn’t done anything to improve the system/contribute to the society, he/she hasn’t got the rights really to say shit about that system(in an insulting manner I mean ). Just see the movie Swades (if you haven’t), thats the kind of patriotism we need, not the blind patriotism which just denies the truth and fights blindly. If you/me/we are a true patriot, then we should openly compare the differences (like this post’s author Ms. Rashmi ) and do something on a personal level-as per our capabilities.
For example- We all have paid bribes in India, but if we all notice, its majorly in order to get our things done faster and easily. Its we who are looking for shortcuts too. We dont wear a helmet, we drive drunk, we dont wanna stand in the Q—isnt all this our fault? How come the greedy cops or the corrupt officers responsible if we are wrong in the firstplace? Note: I am not implying that its the sole reason for bribes in India, sometimes you are left with no other option than to pay the bribe, even when you are right… but things do change slowly with contribution from the society.
Would like to agree with tha author of the above article.very accurate just afew things to add.
I have been here for a year and four months, and this is my third semester here,doing my MS in Public administration.One thing i have also noticed in class is that the lecturers or professors give students alot of freedom.I mean, from the country where i come from you only participate in class when you have something very important to ask or to clarify, but here it’s totally different people say even the(dumbest) ..(apologies for being a bit harsh)..things and still get away with it.
I mean lets face it; like in the class i am in, you only get 10% marks for class participation.But here some students participate like they want to achieve the whole 100% of the grade, by speaking on and on in class.
Believe me someone once told me that when you come here to study in the USA, in class “students know more than the teacher, you can be intimidated”. This is a fact that i have seen in class.In most instances international students fear speaking in class because one: accent and the other reason some US students don’t seem to appreciate your participation.Did someone mention racism in this article?
The only way i can urge international students to gain respect is by getting good grades in class, i don’t mean to be rude, but it can silence them a little.And participate in class, i used to fear but now i don’t.I also work in the school library and talk to staff and other students who need assistance, i have come to realize when you leave fear and put yourself in the open you learn alot.Not to mention you gain some communication skills and some work skills.However sadly when some international students come here they want to hang around with other international students or want to stay indoors and watch a movie or something, i used to be like that once then i realize “I am in America now”.Just afew words for those planning to come here.
Hmmm, +1
“US students don’t seem to appreciate your participation.Did someone mention racism in this article?…”
I want some information on Canada and the US regarding the jobs, related topics like treatment to Indians and racism etc I have applied to both US n Canadian universities but i want to know more about the two in a similar comparison format. Plz HSB help.
My apologies for all the spelling and grammatical mistakes in the below comment . I was in hurry so could review it .
I think people like Ravikumar are jealous of people earning or living in the United States….I think such people had a dream of pursuing higher education in the United states but due some financial reason or other were not able to pursue their higher studies from the states…so they are completely jealous of indians working their and having high standards…so in such a case all Ravikumar can do is to abuse people in the USA just to calm his anger…so Ravikumar just STFU!!
Of course. Ramkumar’s words are like “For the sake of nation you are supposed to sacrifice your rights to better education and end up being poor.” Does the government guarantee good living conditions for all who have sacrificed better opportunities abroad? Does anyone even care about those beggars on streets?
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In the statement regarding education cost ‘you pay less than 5 times than in US.’ you meant one fifth time right ?
Yes